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Yammer77

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I shoot in Auto
« on: January 20, 2008, 07:20:19 pm »
I shoot in Auto when using a flash!
I admit it.
Figured I would get this forum started right with some good controversy!!

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2008, 08:47:40 pm »
Ouch.... That hurts.... Are you telling the truth on this one?

Yammer77

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2008, 09:28:24 pm »
Yep....being honest.
Other than that, I shoot in A mode a lot.

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 10:32:30 am »
ME TOO!!!!  I admit to shooting in Auto Mode most of the time!!

  I used to always use a Nikon FM (manual everything) SLR and when I got a Nikon F100 and a digital P&S (point and shoot) I was just amazed by the Auto setting.  I was very timid about using  the fully automatic setting at first until I had to do a wedding one weekend some years ago and wasn't feeling good.  I figured I would put the F100 on automatic pilot and fly by the seat of my pants!!  When I got the photos back, I was stunned!!!!  The exposures and focusing were totally flawless!!!  I figured the new camera electronics were superior to my hard-earned experience and I haven't really looked back since.

I do occasionally play with the "scene" modes and the menu somewhat now.  I want to get a DSLR (digital single lens reflex) this year, hopefully before summer.  I think probably a Nikon D80 or better (looks like it will be a D300!!).  I also need a new "purse" camera and that will most likely be a Nikon again unless I see something else that catches my eye and feels good in my hand without emptying my wallet completely.

My father was a pro photographer for most of his life and he always told me that if you can't take a good photo with an Instamatic (60s version of P&S!) camera, you're not going to take a good photo with $10,000 of camera equipment either.

In this Digital Age of Photography that we are in now I don't think it is so much your settings or editing or camera, it is your composition that matters, just like 40 years ago.  It still comes down to YOU, the Photographer.  If you work within the limitations of your camera, you can take a good photo with any kind of equipment, even a pinhole camera made from a cardboard box or a disposable 35mm camera from the drugstore!!

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 03:19:53 pm »
peachhead,
Your Dad was absolutely right.  I've been saying that for years now.  The person BEHIND the lens makes a GREAT image.  (However, I must admit, the newer dslrs sure make it easier when one is in a hurry!!) :D

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 03:23:52 pm »
It is also a lot cheaper.  I always loved photography but not cost of developing film.
Digital has really taken off.
Remember the old futuristic designs of digital cameras?

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 09:12:55 pm »
I mostly shot color with slide film (it was MUCH cheaper than print film); B&W I rolled my own, developed, and printed in my darkroom.  I don't miss it one bit. 

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 11:26:29 pm »
My son, a full-time teacher, and part-time artist/photographer, believes in absolutely no post-processing. We have had many discussions on this point.

My view is that the new digital cameras allow so many options within the camera that it is becoming a fine line of before/after alteration to a photo. His belief that a photography should stand as it comes out of the camera, period. I imagine this one could and will be debated for many years to come.

In the past, he has done everything from pinhole to a year-long shoot with B&W Poloroid, which is very difficult to even find. I do tend to over-process, but I'm in the experimentation stage, and admit some of the results have bordered on silly.
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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2008, 11:51:36 pm »
As a member of NAPP, I'm a firm believer in post processing.  ;)

WARNING: Please don't take offense to the following as it's just my opinion on the matter.  As stated, this argument has and will continue on well into the future.

I don't view Photographs as untouchable holy grails as that logic fails to comprehend for me.   If one person has a feature in a camera that another doesn't - how is one photograph more 'authentic and genuine' than another?   Where is the line drawn with what 'feature' kills photography?  Does someone with image stabilization in their lens have a 'less authentic' photograph than someone shooting with an old film camera without the feature?  What if the camera had a built in post processing engine - would it be "authentic" then?   What makes a post processed image any less a "photograph" than another?  Where is the line drawn?

I believe the line should not be if an image is enhanced or not, but whether it is meant to be a documentary of the moment, or a beautiful picture.   A picture should be what the photographer wants it to be.  How is it any different than a "photo journalist" who takes a photo while cropping out the surrounding content in order to manipulate the image?  (Don't even get me started on the political aspect and bias of our main stream media, such as this as an example).   But by simply changing the focus or DOF of the image, that image portrays a totally different picture that what the actual circumstances are.  Obviously, digital adding or removing content of a situation meant as a documentary could be an outright fraud. 

But I think photography has evolved into a much more dynamic "art".   Like many forms of art, there are so many ways to interpret it and go about it.   I've seen photos turned into digital 'paintings' that are fantastic, or digital images that weren't great out of the camera become beautiful images to look at thanks to post processing.  Should those images be denied to viewers because the photographer didn't capture the "proper settings or technique" at that moment? 



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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 07:48:39 am »
RH,
I agree ( just didn't want to quote your novella :) )

Digital has brought photography to the masses and is just another form of art.
Just as back in the day enlargers, etc were a party of a photog's gear, today it has been replaced by editing software.
I see no difference whatsoever.  I do feel that if a lot post processing has been done to a photo then it should be noted.

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 08:08:11 am »
Maybe we should have a contest with "NO" post processing at all... But then with todays cameras how is one to know if the camera does not do it.


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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 11:01:50 am »
Maybe we should have a contest with "NO" post processing at all... But then with todays cameras how is one to know if the camera does not do it.

Exactly.  Some camera's have built in noise reduction, color adjustments, etc.   It's pretty hard to say what is "no" post processing. 
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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 11:02:35 am »
I'm with you Scott!!  Photography is art.  Painters who use mixed media are no less the artist!

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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 11:03:03 am »
RH,
I agree ( just didn't want to quote your novella :) )

LOL - That was a 'brief' novella.   You should see them when I really get into it.   ;)
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Re: I shoot in Auto
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 04:38:46 pm »
I'm patting myself on the back right now for starting such a thread!!